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                  Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  Nabend

                  War wirklich n schönes Rennen ohne zu viele Fehler

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                  Aw: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  Hallo,
                  ja ich fand auch das es ein klasse Rennen war. Super gesittet beim Start. Hätte ich nicht gedacht!
                  So macht ein Rennen Spaß.
                  Gratulation an alle die mitgefahren sind, und besonders an die die bis zum Ende mitgefahren sind!!! ( ausgenommen natürlich die wegen Motorschäden usw. ausgefallen sind )

                  Freue mich schon auf den nächsten Event!

                  Gruß,

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                  Re: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  Hi all,

                  I drove at server #3, qualified 4th and had a brilliant start compared to top 3, so I took the lead and led over 5 laps.

                  Maggi tried once to overtake me at the end of the main straight, but had to back off and lost his 2nd place to David (Urgozobi).

                  A lap later David tried the same overtaking manouver, but he did not back off although the whole thing was doomed from the start - he hit my car:



                  I could recover from that but then he stroke again:



                  I flew tens of meters outside of track. But what did David do? No sorry, no wait, he just kept on going!:



                  I was left 13th:



                  I did what I could after that. When there were 4 laps left I was only 2 seconds back of Latent, who was on position 5 and he was just on my trigger when Schorsch Maier spinned in front of us. Latent could avoid hitting him but I unfortenately not. So I had to be happy with my 6th place at the end.

                  @David:
                  YOU'RE A REAL PIECE OF SH*T!

                  @Schorsch Maier:
                  Don't worry - things like that can happen.

                  Cheers,
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                  Aw: Re: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  tjl schrieb.
                  YOU'RE A REAL PIECE OF SH*T!
                  @Timo: Feel pitty for you, that your race wasn't enjoyable for you again. Maybe it could be discussed, if somebody didn't treat you right during race, but, as I look on your words in caps to David, there's no doubt, how YOUR attitude towards other people might be...

                  Try PM on personal interests - not much fun to read such unkind words on a public forum
                   
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                  Aw: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  hi tjl,

                  it seems, that there are always the same drivers to give crit at other drivers and that after every race. i mean everybody has the right for an fair and unproblematic race. but it is gently exhausting to read that kind of threads. when you see, that there is somebody behind you trying to overtake, then you have to reckon he tries it sooner of later. and you are in position sometimes or other to cut back or give some space. so the chance to make a crash is possibly low. you cant always lock the door and give other the guilt.

                  a often have this kind of situation, but i cut back and try later to overtake again.

                  i dont blame you and can understand you. but think about my words and keep it in mind for the next races.

                  best regards, i hope next race will be better for you
                   
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                  Re:Aw: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  I had some good races with David. I think he's a fast, but sometimes agressive driver. Some collisions happens every now and then. I don't think that he's a POS. Everyone can make a mistake.

                  Doing five-lap races, you can learn who is who on the 'bude. Someone is wildly triyng to overtake you in the pit? Cannot wait the car in front of him carefully joins the racetrack? You can suppose that he won't be more patient in a real race!

                  You see a guy more in the gravel than on the road? In race keep a good distance from him - maybe he cannot controll his car 100%, brake too late, spinning out, etc.

                  Anyway, I rarely join the 30-40-70 lap races. I dont have the patience for that. I usually find enough fun in the everyday five-lappers.


                  greetz

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                  Aw: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  hehhe lol how true ron,

                  i didn't participate in the race yesterday, but always curious to see "tij's picture-show" in the after race threads.


                  wow, tij, so much effort....so little effect.

                   
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                  Re: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  Hi all,


                  @JoWi
                  Now I'm beginning to regret my extreme harsh words but what is written is written...

                  But that's how I felt soon after the race. This one time I had a perfect beginning for the race David (The Urgozobi one of 3 David's here) took it away in such a rude way. Just an apology and wait from him would have been enough to solve the whole thing. What more could I expect? But he just kept on going...

                  Did I say I did not enjoy the race? And again? Of course I did, I enjoy every race. It needs much more to make my race unenjoyable.

                  You're right that this public forum is not the best place to discuss these things, but I decided to take it here if someone else has similar experiences with David as well.


                  @BigRon
                  I am aware what you said about overtaking. Sometimes it is better to let someone just pass you but yesterday the situation was not like that at all, I was not stucking the route. I just thought there was no place for equal racers to overtake unless the previous one makes a mistake. Yesterday Maggi tried to overtake me at the same place one lap earlier than David and noticed it was not possible and backed off. David was just behind him and saw that all. But just one lap later David tried that same and could not even come fully on my side on the straight, so how could he even think of outbraking me on a worse racing line? OK, everyone make mistakes, but when racing here it is as simple as making an apology and waiting, and the whole thing is forgotten. At least I feel so.

                  After this thread is fully discussed, I keep my mouth shut and write here nothing for a month at least, not good or bad, I just race!


                  @Adam
                  Are we sure to talk about the same David? There are three of them here. I was talking about the one with lobby name Urgozobi.


                  @Imper_
                  One picture tells more than thousand words, but from now on I'm going to concentrate on racing, not writing short stories or novels here. I let someone else to do the "punishment" job, what about the rules and obeying them - let's all drive like madmans!


                  All I ment here was to contribute your racing rules. As I try to be a fair racer towards all others, say sorry and wait if do wrong, I expect others to do so as well.

                  Cheers,
                  Timo
                   
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                  Aw: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  hey tjl,

                  it is nice to see your effort to give information about aggressive driver or unreasonable behavior. but you can be sure that there are more often than not some admins or regular members on the server and they keep ungently drivers in mind and, when necessary, punish or banish them.

                  enjoy racing, regards
                   
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                  Aw: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  Hallo,
                  Zuerst hab ich den server 5 ausgewählt muss mich ja noch an eure add-on strecken gewöhnen. na ja ne 1:59.1xx. Dann musste ich im letzten moment auf den server 3 wechseln. Keine Qualizeit mehr. Im rennen bin ich gut gestartet, keinen berührt aber einige plätze gutgemacht. Leider ist mir dann, schon in der ersten runde, nach der langen gerade, irgendwer (hab's replay nicht geschaut) volle pulle hinten reingedonnert. Ich erschrak und zuckte wohl zusammen und da mein subwoofer auch der abstandhalter für die pedale ist, hatte ich keinen ton mehr. Zuerst hab ich den zusammenhang nicht gerafft. Ohne sound konnte nicht mehr ordentlich fahrn also bin ich ausgestiegen, was sonst wirklich nicht meine art ist. Ich verspreche euch beim nächsten event fahr ich auch noch mit 3 rädern bis ins ziel.

                  Fazit: shit happens überall aber die bude ist spitze.
                   
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                  Aw: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  Jop super Rennen auf Server 5 bin als 9ter gestartet und als 5ter angekommen
                  wie immer fair und Hard sry nochma gabba für den kleinen Heckschubser und Thx an Broiler für den sauberen fight

                  immer wieder gerne wünsch allen einen Guten Start ins Wochenende


                  gruß Headzy


                  P.S. man einige könnten echt bei Schottland Yard arbeiten Beweisfotos und weinen

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                  Aw: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  ja moin



                  das rennen auf server 5 gestern wahr für mich echt der hammer weil echt wieder super fair wahr
                  schöne infights noch mal danke an jowi coole fights
                  bis zur 29 runde da musste ich leider aufgeben =((

                  achja kein prob headzy bin ja auf der strecke geblieben wahr ja nicht so doll


                  danke nochmal an alle fairen fahrer auf server 5
                  wahr echt ein super rennen
                  man sieht sich auf der piste

                  gruss gabba
                   
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                  Re: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  @Headzy

                  Of course I know it's only a game, but games have rules too. If all players do not obey them, it's not so fun any more. The only thing I was complaining was one driver to neglect the basic rule of saying sorry and waiting and so taking unfair advantage.

                  It would not be fair such a driver to "climb to podium" having perhaps only some seconds better time than drivers on next positions. Or what do you think? If that makes me a policeman, then I'm happy to be one.

                  In this case the only positive thing was that this cheater ran out of fuel on lap 17, so there is some rightfulness after all.

                  Accidents happen and that must be accepted but unfair behavior should not be tolerated. Just saying sorry and waiting is enough.

                  Cheers,
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                  Aw: Re: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  Hallo zusammen,
                  ich finde das wir ja hier Rennen fahren. Und wenn einer mal schneller ist dann klopft er im Eifer des Gefächts auch schon mal an den Kofferraumdeckel. Wo oft nur Zentimeter abstand sind kommt das öfter vor. Und sicher auch mehrmals in einem Rennen. Und ich glaube Big Ron hat geschrieben was ich auch denke: dann mach ich halt ma eben etwas platz und lasse passieren. Evtl. ergibt sich schon eine Gelegenheit den Platz wieder zu erobern. (langer Boxenstop, Ausritt, Dreher....) Besser als die Linie 20 Runden halten zu wollen, abgeschossen zu werden und dann nur noch letzter zu sein, oder wie seht Ihr das
                  Leute?
                  Auch wenn ich vorsichtig fahren möchte habe ich sicher auch schon den einen oder anderen hier angestoßen. Ein ernstgemeintes "Sorry" und mehr geht nicht!

                  See you next Race,

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                  Aw: Re: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  Also das Rennen auf Server 5 war tatsächlich mal wieder supergeil! Von Pole am Start einige Plätze zurückgefallen, dann wieder nach vorn gekämpft und einige Runden gebraucht, um an GeeDee dran zu sein. Nice fight Gordon!
                  Dann hat sich Gee nach dem Mitnehmen der Curbs in der ersten Schikane überschlagen, war iwie komisch.
                  Weiter gings.
                  Bis zum Boxenstopp hab ich Micha auf Distanz halten können, allerdings wusste ich nicht, wo man den Limiter reinhauen muss und hab das vorsichtshalber schonmal an der Ampel gemacht. Micha wusste es besser und war nach dem Stop direkt an meiner Stoßstange.

                  Danach folgte ein wirklich genialer Zweikampf, irgendwann war Micha vorbei und ein Stück weg, ich kam aber wieder ran und der fight ging weiter. Leider hab ich mich dann in der Schikane gedreht, mein Scheiß Schalthebelproblem, einmal getippt und 2 Gänge runtergeschaltet.

                  Naja, danach war keine Chance mehr, Micha noch einzuholen, 10 sec waren zu viel.
                  Nochmal Grats!

                  Zur Diskussion hab ich ne eher geteilte Meinung:

                  Die Rennen machen nur wirklich Spass, wenn hart aber fair gefightet wird. Sonst könnten wir auch offline fahren. Von daher kommt vorbeilassen für mich nicht in Frage! Wenn einer ne Position hinten aber schneller ist, dann soll er sich halt vorbeikämpfen. Gerade darin liegt aus meiner Sicht der Reiz am Rennenfahren. Sonst könnten wir auch der Ergebnis der Quali als Rennergebnis nehmen ( Wär gut gewesen, aber der Spass wär auf der Strecke geblieben). Nicht vorbeilassen heißt aber nicht, dass man sich nicht gegenseitig Platz lässt. Micha und ich sind auch einige Kurven nebeneinander durchfahren, ohne dass einer in ernste Probleme gekommen wäre.

                  Andererseits muss man sagen, dass es Situationen gibt, wo man nach dem Entschluss, zu überholen, nicht mehr zurück kann. Wenn der Gegner auf Start-Ziel noch 30m vor einem ist, dann brauch man eigentlich nicht versuchen, ihn auszubremsen. Wenn man das doch versucht, nach innen zieht und der Gegner aber nicht wie vielleicht erwartet 100m zu früh bremst, dann ist der Crash eigentlich nicht mehr zu vermeiden. Mehr als Vollbremsung geht halt nicht. Aber dann erwartet man eigentlich ein sry und Warten des Verursachers. Alles andere ist egoistisch.

                  Und dass die Sitten auffe Bude leider in letzter Zeit etwas nachzulassen beginnen, dürften eigentlich alle Vielfahrer mitbekommen haben.

                  Ich hoffe, Ihr habt das nächste Mal wieder alle ein hartes, faires, ereignisreiches, spannendes und vor allem superspaßiges Rennen!
                   
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                  Re: Oesterreichring - Capri 17 Years, 6 Months ago  
                  @Cooky
                  Thanks for your opinion. I totally agree with you!


                  @David
                  I really am sorry about my bad, bad language and calling you names. The crash itself was 'nothing', but I demand so much from myself what it comes to obeying rules here that it is so hard to let anyone to ignore them.

                  It was really fun to race against you up to the point of disaster. I wish we can now 'clean the table' and race again on future events on a fair basis.

                  Also I wish you could write your own opinion and feelings here, either in english or german. I would appreciate it very much and it could 'freshen the air' too.


                  Now I have calmed down and leave all this behind, I hope you all can forgive me my childish reactions. I was so disappointed since just this one time everything went brilliantly and I had better chances than ever. But what does not kill you makes you only stronger. I have recovered and come on 'full steam' to the next event tomorrow.

                  See you all there!

                  Cheers,
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                  in 790 laps

                  overall:
                  Manfred Haupenthal
                  961.410,42 km
                  in 214.357 laps

                  --- Total statistics ---

                  in week 42:
                  59 driver
                  13.546,06 km
                  in 3.052 laps

                  in Oktober:
                  68 driver
                  51.317,76 km
                  in 12.489 laps

                  overall:
                  8769 driver
                  50.312.336,49 km
                  in 11.405.797 laps



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