Hi,

I write this message on behalf of Mic64, as he doesn't speak either english or german.

since autoupdate of July 4 (many cortinas, MKIIs, ...) the game crash during initial startup, i guess during load of cars and tracks. Usual message "GTL crashed, windows looking for solution", but here it is happening every time, not sometimes as i guess many of us get from time to time, so he can't play anymore.

This is a big issue for him and his lifestyle, he spends 4h per day driving

I had him do the autoupdater "reinstallation" to check files, but even after that the game won't start.

PLEASE, someone help us and give the next step for solving this.
Can we easily track down modified files on July 4 and delete them to force reinstallation of those files ?

Thanks

We tried to remove all car folders with date July 4.
Then auto-updater reinstalled many missing files

Still the same crash at game start ...

Can someone help ??

Try to change something in graphic settings e.G the graphic level from dx 9 to auto or something else and try it again.

Has Mic64 tried to reinstall GTL?

It is very easy to CTD GTL and it could just be that he has put something or deleted something which is needed to run the game.

Also try to run GTL from the actual GTL.exe file in the GTL folder as his link may have become corrupted... this has happend to me a few times in the past, in fact it happened to me just this afternoon but it did start to work again later.

Good luck.

Hi

Right click on your Desktop Icon, and choose PROPERTIES.

In the TARGET box after GTL.exe (leave a space) then add -trace=1000

Next time you get a CTD, go to your C/GTL/ Userdata folder and in the LOG folder there will be a trace.txt file.

Then copy and past the contents of that file here so we can look at it.
We might be able to figure it out.
The problem is usually at the bottom in the last few lines.

thanks guy
i will try to settle my problemes to nigth with pasender because i am as bad in data-procecing than in english.

hi all,

we tried to run the exe directly, crashed.

we tried running GTLconfig, change a setting (resolution), restarted, crashed again.

we activated the -trace option, game crashed and trace generated. I copied below the last 3 lines, looks like it is a problem with files related to the player profile. Strange as nothing was modified.

"
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
plrfile.cpp 2510: Attempting to save to USERDATA\mic64\mic64.TMP
plrfile.cpp 2533: Retcode: 0 for renaming to USERDATA\mic64\mic64.PLR
"

Greg7 and all,

i hope that based on this information, you have some idea to recover without re-installaling all or losing profile

Thanks for your help,
Pasender and Mic64.

It might be good to post more of the Trace file,
but honestly I expected the problem to be in his PLR file as the only time I have had a crash right at load up was a PLR file corruption issue

I think the first thing I would do is remove the mic64 PLR file from the game just save it on the desktop or in a folder someplace and see if the game will start.

If it will then at least we know where the issue is.

If that does not fix it then you should post the whole trace file.

Hello,

may be the problem is the profile.

If this doesn't help - before you invest more time - it's a little to reinstall all exception is the content of the updatefolder if you have to download it again.

Before you do this remove Python and Wxpython and the Autoupdater from your computer.

So install GTL in a second folder and you keep all your profiles. Here is the translation from Moorhuhn of the chapter Installation/FAQ:


*remove your install completely
*reinstall from DVD - !!Don't start the game!!
*Update to Version 1.1.0.0
*Install Python, Wxpython and the Autoupdater from here
*Go to Autoupdater -> Tweaks -> GTL-Patch (170MB to download)
* Run the Autoupdater (be patient, 15GB skins and tracks to download via P2P)
* When the Updater has finished, you can unlock all cars and tracks in the autoupdater (make TG2001.DYN) and set the car prices to 1 - not 0, as you can't sell them afterwards, if you like to
*Join us on track..

After the GTL-patch you can try to start GTL. After that run the autoupdater.

If GTL or the Autoupdater then make problems you should load all content of the updatefolder again from the Bude in another folder because there are 2 users this week they reported this solution.

cheers
rdjango

"tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand "
"plrfile.cpp 2510: Attempting to save to USERDATA\mic64\mic64.TMP plrfile.cpp 2533: Retcode: 0 for renaming to USERDATA\mic64\mic64.PLR"

Can you give us some more trace lines to look at please Pasender there may be something else their that we could see and you have missed.

Gee

Ok Gee and all,

here are more lines from the trace, the last ones:

"
setup.cpp 1088: Could not find MINI.HDC
setup.cpp 1088: Could not find AUSTIN_MINI.CAS
setup.cpp 1088: Could not find AUSTIN_MINI.AUD
vidman.cpp 1044: Entered VidMan::Enter()
specialfx.cp 3138: Entered SpecialFX::Enter()
dynman.cpp 632: Entered DynMan::Enter()
plrfile.cpp 3334: Entered PlayerFile::Enter()
sound.cpp 725: Entered Sound::Enter()
hwinput.cpp 6369: Entered HWInput::Enter()
onscreen.cpp 2941: Entered OnScreen::Enter()
game.cpp 717: Entered Game:etup()
hwinput.cpp 6383: Entered HWInput:etup()
options.cpp 1561: Entered Options:etup()
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
tire_manager 1185: Non-existent tire brand ""
plrfile.cpp 2510: Attempting to save to USERDATA\mic64\mic64.TMP
plrfile.cpp 2533: Retcode: 0 for renaming to USERDATA\mic64\mic64.PLR
"

before that, many lines like the first 3 related to setup.cpp.

Hi Pasender,

I'm no expert but it looks to me like it is something to do with the Mini Cooper S files, possibly missing or corrupt.

I have uploaded the Mini Cooper S files such as .aud .cas .tyre etc etc onto MediaFire for Mic64 to download.

He just needs to unzip and place the GameData folder into his GTL folder and let it overwrite. These are just Mini files that he should have anyway so nothing will be harmed.
Download link: http://www.mediafire.com/?75d10jd6qpnpu68

If that doesn't work then definately do as Moorhuhn suggests.

Hope this works.

Gee

Hi guys.
Well anything is possible
but if those mini files were the issue it normally would crash at that point in the trace and it does not.
Also missing or corrupted car files normally do not crash your game until you try to load that car, not at game start up.
However a game crash at car or track load up can corrupt your PLR file, which can cause a crash at start up.
So there may be the original issue and the resulting collateral damage.
but anything is possible.

However in looking at the longer trace, now I am not sure I totally understand when this crash happens.
Is this crash right at game start up?
Or as he is trying to do something after the game has started?

Hi Greg7 and all,

We're making progress

The crash happened during startup, right after the 3 animations, about 5 seconds after the GTL screen comes, right before the main menu appears.

By moving the mic64.plr file away, the game now starts OK , at least we get to the menu.

Now the problem is that we can't start anything, either single or multi player, i guess because the file contains so many settings for the user.

I compared mic64.plr file to my pasender.plr, it looks very similar, it is not "corrupted", but maybe one parameter has a "bad" value ?

Can we "repair" this file or do we have to re-create the mic64 profile ? If we do that, any issue with password and altbierbude ?

Thanks for support from all, please help us get thru this last painful step

@ Greg7

Sounds good to me.

@ Pasender.

You could copy/paste parts of mic's .PLR file to another .PLR and see if that helps.

Don't forget to make copies just in case you lose it though.

Gee

Does he have any other GTL installs?
If so you can copy the PLR file out of one of those in to the ABB game.
That would at least save the time of resetting up all the control values and such

If not he should be able to just create a new Driver profile in the Game,
He can still use the same name


I am not sure how to fix the old PLR file.
It can be one very small thing to make it not work.
GeeDee's idea might work to try and fix the old one.

There should be no issue with the password, he should be able to log in with the same name and password as before.

Or make a new profile with a different name (a new .plr will be generated) and merge the new original .plr with the maybe corrupted .plr. For merging those two files you can use a tool like WinMerge.

If this doesn't help -> Don't waste your time and just make a new clean install and copy the old settings... Should be faster then figuring out were the problem is (at least if you still have the altbierbuden-archive, so no download would be neccesary).

Gregs idea is good if you can actually get that far, but if you can't and you do have an old .PLR file then try my method below.

You may want to do this on any new .PLR file so that it saves you entering the same information by typing it in.

Editing the bad .PLR has worked for me before, but not every time.

What I usually do is to copy from your bad .PLR file:

[ CHAT ]

to
Online Password="-----------" just above the line [ Options ]

Then paste these over the same lines on your new .PLR file.

[color=#008000]You will see that the bottom lines of this have your online information that you will need.[/color]

Next to copy is:
[b][color=#FF0000]FFB Device Type=[/color][/b] etc to the end of the listing and paste on newt;</b></span> just above the line [ Options ]

Then paste these over the same lines on your new .PLR file.

You will see that the bottom lines of this have your online information that you will need.

Next to copy is:
FFB Device Type= etc to the end of the listing and paste on new .PLR file.


Good luck.

Gee

hi all,

At the end what we did was the simple option, we created a new profile and applied all settings again. Mapping this new profile to the online account mic64 worked.

But ..... We have big issues again

From lobby we select a track, then list of cars shows all cars with speed 0 power 0, all fields 0 !!
Whenever we try to buy a car (let's say a mini for example), then a Cobra (always the same one) is shown for buying, and the buy button is grayed out !!!

Also, we still have intermittent crash of the game, and trace refers to the new profile .plr file

I start to be really annoyed with the whole thing, but have not lost all hope yet

I know last resort is a full re-install, but i want to try everything else first, because full re-install for Mic64 will be a nightmare

What do you suggest as next step ?

Thanks,
Pasender.

Whenever we try to buy a car (let's say a mini for example), then a Cobra (always the same one) is shown for buying, and the buy button is grayed out !!!

Because you have created a new .PLR you do not have the funds to buy cars until you earn some credits.

I can't remember what to do next as it has been some while that this happened to me but you could try overwriting your Career.blt & garage.gar etc in the UserData/xxxxxxxx folder with the old files from your old game.

Please make copies of your new files before you try this just in case.

Can anyone else help here please?

Gee

Hi,

yes Gee , in the autoupdater is the option to set all prices to 1 € or so and to free all tracks.
You have to do this before you create a new profile - as you can read in the Installationinstructions posted before.

If you dont need to download all content from the bude a complete re-install is about 1-2 hours only.

cheers
rdjango

Hi
Well having all of the cars showing 0 for power and speed is a bigger issue
Than just not having credits
This means the cars are not seeing the physics files for some reason

Besides if you have the unlock all cars tracks file installed which I am sure he does the credit issue should not matter.
His new player should have full credits and all cars and tracks unlocked.
his new player should work because this is his old game and already has all of the files

What rdjango is saying I think would only apply to a new install
As this game has all of the ABB updater files already in it.
Or at least it should.

But the first issue of the cars saying 0 for all the power and speed values is much more troubling I think.

A reinstall should not be a nightmare and I think he may be close to this option
I am not sure.

Hi all,

He has 1 million funds and all cars are already at 1 thanks to auto-updater, so the problem is not there.
I think the issue is more where Greg7 mentions.

So it looks like he needs to re-install the game.

Can we skip the python/autoupdater steps and just change the path in auto-updater to the newly installed GTL in order to update it ?

Pasender.

pasender schrieb:
Hi all,

Can we skip the python/autoupdater steps and just change the path in auto-updater to the newly installed GTL in order to update it ?

Pasender.

yes you can

rdjango

many thanks all of you for your help
I will have to wait one or two weeks before than pasender will be able to help me by phone to settle my trouble