Menu Content/Inhalt
Home arrow Forum

Login Form

Sistersites


Festbierbude
Kölschbierbude
Malzbierbude
Schwarzbierbude
Weissbierbude

  • same fun
  • same guys
  • different SIMs

Chummy Sites

Teamspeak 3

  • Lobby
    • ETCC Server 1
      • ETCC Server 2
        • ETCC Disco Server
          • International Channel
            • Rookie Club
              • Ballerburg
                • Komm bald wieder Motzki!
                  • Kummerkasten
                    • Dienstabteil-geschlossene Gesellschaft
                      • AFK - in ein paar Minuten zurück

                        Who's Online

                        Guests: 121
                        Members: 3

                        Today's anniversaries

                        Maze19 year(s)
                        Azzamich1 year(s)

                        more...

                        Website Performance

                        today
                        Min.:0.051 sec.
                        Ø:0.181 sec.
                        Max.:8.647 sec.

                        week
                        Min.:0.05 sec.
                        Ø:0.172 sec.
                        Max.:8.818 sec.

                        month
                        Min.:0.049 sec.
                        Ø:0.198 sec.
                        Max.:8.829 sec.

                        updated: 2025-09-23 18:36:07

                        Visitor Statistics

                        today4982
                        yesterday5213
                        week10195
                        month138878
                        all17324057

                        updated: 2025-09-23 18:41:20

                        It's hot or not?

                        DFC_S2_Race_01
                        * **

                        Support Altbierbude

                        Spenden für den Gameserver

                        Donations for the Gameserver

                        Forum - Altbierbude
                        Welcome, Guest
                        Please Login or Register.    Lost Password?
                        Re:race start dynamics (1 viewing) (1) Guest
                        Go to bottom Post Reply Favoured: 0
                        TOPIC: Re:race start dynamics
                        #7672
                        dirtyvfr (Visitor)
                        Expert Boarder
                        Register Date
                        Latest Post
                        2010-03-20 21:18:49
                        Posts: 91
                        graphgraph
                        User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
                        T 1 crash why 18 Years ago  
                        seeing as tonights race has a b1tch of a corner for T1
                        http://www.simjunkies.org/Forum/index.php? topic=2181.0

                        but you only need to look at the attached diagram to see the effects of late braking and it's bilingual

                        Race Starting Dynamic

                        Lets have a look at the Dynamics of a race start, from the perspective of the Pole Position (driver P) and Last Place on the Grid (driver L) and no other cars or drivers on the track, although their mind sets will still take account of other drivers.


                        See attached diagram.

                        300 m = from the turn in point (TIP), terminal velocity on the straight, on the limiter in top.
                        250 m = from the TIP, last place (LP) on the grid.
                        150 m = from the TIP, pole position (PP)
                        000 m = TIP for T1, brakes off. 50 MPH

                        And their off, on the acceleration phase………………

                        Driver P:
                        Accelerates too the Optimum Pole Position Brake Point (OPP-BP) and has reached 100 mph and is 50 meters from the TIP on the left hand side of the track, and is now into his Braking Phase

                        Driver L:
                        Accelerates too the Optimum Last Place Brake Point (OLP-BP) and has reached 150 mph and is 100 meters from the TIP on the right hand side of the track, and is now into his Braking Phase.

                        Driver P Mind Set:
                        Has invested a great deal of skill and effort in getting the pole and knows that out braking himself into T1 could lose him a several positions, he also might be thinking about jump starts and a stop/go penalty. He did in fact start braking 10 metres before the OPP-BP, so he’s now doing 90 mph and has 60 metres until the TIP, this gives him an extra 10 metres to slow the car as it’s at maximum weight with cold tyres, he is on the left hand side of the track to defend the corner, he’s not on the racing line so he uses the extra 10 meters well so he shouldn’t run wide through T1 and gets a perfect T2.

                        Driver L: Mind Set
                        He is banking on taking advantage of the impending carnage at T1, He did not actually start braking until he was 10 metres past the OLP-BP, so he’s now doing 160 mph and is only 90 metres from the TIP has cold tyres and a full tank of petrol and was more or less out of control once he passed PLP-BP, he will not be able to drive round anyone that has had a mishap on T1 or T2 as he’s going 20 mph too fast into T1 but might get a luck bounce off of some one that might put him back on track., but he is on the right hand side of the track entering T1.


                        Various assumptions and simplifications:
                        Both drivers are of equal skill, but may have different mind sets.
                        Both drivers have the same car, setups and full fuel loads.
                        The cars maximum acceleration/braking are both linear and the same at 10 mph per 10 metres.

                        TIP: before you start a real race, set up your local machine for a 3 lap race on the track in question, with the cars in question and also have AI cars on, and do at least 1 race with the fuel load you intend to start with in the real race, remember to check the race server full usage as if it's set to 2 x fuel usage you'll need to add twice the amount of fuel so the car is at the correct weight for your practice race.

                        TIP: unless your running a super computer you are going to get a lower FPS (Frames Per Second) at the start of a race, don't be surprised when it happens.

                        TIP: you might encounter a bit of warp or lag (you shouldn't get much lag or warp on a modern server, you are seeing other peoples connection problems, unless everyone is doing it), there's not much you can do about this if it happens, all you can do is leave a bigger gap and more space between you and the cars around you.


                        Post edited by: dirtyvfr, at: 2007/08/30 10:44

                        Post edited by: dirtyvfr, at: 2007/08/30 10:45

                        now i can't add the picture

                        Post edited by: dirtyvfr, at: 2007/08/30 10:48

                        Post edited by: dirtyvfr, at: 2007/08/30 10:49

                        Post edited by: dirtyvfr, at: 2007/09/07 15:24<br><br>Post edited by: dirtyvfr, at: 2007/09/09 21:15
                         
                        Report to moderator   Logged Logged  
                         
                        http://www.bikepics.com/members/venturer/

                        dirtyvfr @ pilsbierbude &amp; SJ_dirtyvfr @ simjunkies.org
                        THE MAGIC NUMBERS - ROCK &amp; own live 10 out of 10
                          The administrator has disabled public write access.
                        #7673
                        dirtyvfr (Visitor)
                        Expert Boarder
                        Register Date
                        Latest Post
                        2010-03-20 21:18:49
                        Posts: 91
                        graphgraph
                        User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
                        Re:race start dynamics 18 Years ago  
                        grrrrrr
                        File Attachment:
                        File Name: race_start_dynamic_x.zip
                        File Size: 13127


                        Post edited by: dirtyvfr, at: 2007/08/30 10:54

                        sorry i've had to zip it, it's a .jpg file, a sort of graph of the speeds at a start and the effects of missing a brake point by 10m<br><br>Post edited by: dirtyvfr, at: 2007/08/30 10:57
                         
                        Report to moderator   Logged Logged  
                         
                        http://www.bikepics.com/members/venturer/

                        dirtyvfr @ pilsbierbude &amp; SJ_dirtyvfr @ simjunkies.org
                        THE MAGIC NUMBERS - ROCK &amp; own live 10 out of 10
                          The administrator has disabled public write access.
                        #7722
                        Geedee (User)
                        Treat people the way you would like to be treat...
                        Moderator
                        Register Date
                        2007-04-04 23:24:04
                        Latest Post
                        2020-12-25 23:58:39
                        Posts: 2316
                        graphgraph
                        User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
                        Gender: Male Location: South Shields, Tyne & wear, England Birthdate: 1949-01-23
                        Re:race start dynamics 18 Years ago  
                        Very good Gogs you brainy Scotsman.

                        I am now wondering if I should bother to qualify or not . It explains clearly the reasons for this happening and there are a few racers out there who do not have a clue at the best of times about what the outcome of their actions will be .

                        I hope the naughty drivers will take note of this article ..we will be asking questions later! He he.

                        Thanks m8.
                         
                        Report to moderator   Logged Logged  
                         

                          The administrator has disabled public write access.
                        #8080
                        dirtyvfr (Visitor)
                        Expert Boarder
                        Register Date
                        Latest Post
                        2010-03-20 21:18:49
                        Posts: 91
                        graphgraph
                        User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
                        Re:race start dynamics 18 Years ago  
                        let't win the whole race in 3/4 of first lap, i don't think so.
                         
                        Report to moderator   Logged Logged  
                         
                        http://www.bikepics.com/members/venturer/

                        dirtyvfr @ pilsbierbude &amp; SJ_dirtyvfr @ simjunkies.org
                        THE MAGIC NUMBERS - ROCK &amp; own live 10 out of 10
                          The administrator has disabled public write access.
                        Go to top Post Reply
                        Powered by FireBoardget the latest posts directly to your desktop

                        ETCC 17 Race #01

                        K.L.I.C.K.

                        in:

                        updated: 2025-09-23 18:44:45

                        Our Offer

                        tracks:699
                        vehicletypes:323
                        vehicles:3629

                        updated: 2025-09-23 18:45:02

                        Latest Downloads

                        Aug.31
                        Downloads
                        Altbierbuden Car Classes (Update)
                        Aug.13
                        Downloads
                        Audi 80 GTE
                        Aug.13
                        Downloads
                        Ika Torino (Update)
                        Aug.10
                        Downloads
                        F1 1979
                        Jan.05
                        Downloads
                        Porsche 911 Carrera RSR IMSA (Update)

                        updated: 2025-09-23 18:44:45

                        Latest Thanks

                        CX650 2025-09-21 22:18

                        CX650 2025-09-21 22:18

                        CX650 2025-09-21 22:17

                        CX650 2025-09-21 22:16

                        JYK703 2025-09-21 21:05

                        Bierbuden GTL-Lobby

                        ONLINE

                        updated: 2025-09-23 18:44:45

                        ABB Server #1

                        _GTLR_WAITING_FOR_LIVE

                        ABB Server #2

                        _GTLR_WAITING_FOR_LIVE

                        ABB Server #3

                        _GTLR_WAITING_FOR_LIVE

                        ABB Server #4

                        _GTLR_WAITING_FOR_LIVE

                        ABB Server #5

                        _GTLR_WAITING_FOR_LIVE

                        ABB Server #6

                        _GTLR_WAITING_FOR_LIVE

                        ABB Server #7

                        _GTLR_WAITING_FOR_LIVE

                        ABB Server #8

                        _GTLR_WAITING_FOR_LIVE

                        Latest Personal Best Laps

                        • KAFFEESACHSE
                          Reims: 00:02:06.060
                          (Toyota Celica LB turbo)
                          23/09/25-18:10
                        • girindus
                          Reims: 00:01:55.040
                          (Porsche 935)
                          23/09/25-18:08
                        • girindus
                          Reims: 00:02:05.933
                          (Porsche 934)
                          23/09/25-17:49
                        • KAFFEESACHSE
                          Eduardo Cabrera '13: 00:01:27.313
                          (Alfa GTA Junior Gr.2)
                          23/09/25-17:37
                        • girindus
                          BrandsHatch GP: 00:01:39.185
                          (Mazda RX7 Gr2)
                          23/09/25-17:13
                        • Monello1964
                          Eduardo Cabrera '13: 00:01:30.198
                          (Fiat 128 Gr2 1.3)
                          23/09/25-16:57
                        • girindus
                          BrandsHatch GP: 00:01:39.470
                          (Porsche 911 RSR 2,8)
                          23/09/25-16:55
                        • KAFFEESACHSE
                          Eduardo Cabrera '13: 00:01:26.809
                          (Honda Sb1 TS)
                          23/09/25-16:44
                        • KAFFEESACHSE
                          Eduardo Cabrera '13: 00:01:26.625
                          (Fiat 128 Gr2 1.3)
                          23/09/25-16:29
                        • Monello1964
                          Eduardo Cabrera '13: 00:01:31.175
                          (Fiat 128 Gr2 1.1)
                          23/09/25-16:27

                        updated: 2025-09-23 18:45:48

                        Gameserver Statistic


                        --- Latest Driver ---

                        luca1974
                        (20/09/25-12:03)

                        --- Most Active Driver ---

                        in week 39:
                        KAFFEESACHSE
                        452,80 km
                        in 123 laps

                        in September:
                        KAFFEESACHSE
                        7.042,72 km
                        in 1.165 laps

                        overall:
                        Manfred Haupenthal
                        961.410,42 km
                        in 214.357 laps

                        --- Total statistics ---

                        in week 39:
                        20 driver
                        1.880,84 km
                        in 465 laps

                        in September:
                        59 driver
                        41.863,42 km
                        in 7.738 laps

                        overall:
                        8765 driver
                        50.250.946,05 km
                        in 11.390.828 laps



                        When will YOU join?

                        updated: 2025-09-23 18:01:04