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                    Aw: Re:Alpine A364 F3 - Setup (0 viewing) 
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                    Alpine A364 F3 - Setup 5 Years, 12 Months ago  
                    Hello Guys,
                    I recently downloaded the stunning new Alpine A364 F3 set.

                    I tried driving one and found it just too hard to drive - Does anybody have a setup of the car so I can drive it.

                    Thank you.
                     
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                    Aw: Alpine A364 F3 - Setup 5 Years, 12 Months ago  
                    Hi Chris,

                    I drive it with almost default setup and think it's fantastic (almost fastest time at Norisring at the moment). Of course it needs a different driving approach than other cars, maybe try that first. I see many well known ABB drivers immediately tinkering with the setup to make it to their liking and also crashing a lot but I don't think it's necesairy to get fast. I did 4 years of Grand Prix Legends, one of the hardest games and cars ever and that's much harder than this one but it does help to approach it the same way in driving. Careful, don't push it, keep speed in the corners and find a good line first and then go quicker bit by bit.

                    An exercise I use regularly; drive with no brakes, none at all! And then see how quick you still can be by just finding a good line, work on exits first as you can't work on entries exept finding the right point of turning in.

                    Going better and faster with default setup is seldom a case of just being good at driving. Yes, some aliens are fastest with default but I'm sure anyone can improve a LOT by just finding the right lines.

                    If you still want a setup I'm sure there are people who can provide. In the online folder for Norisring there is at least one called Alpin F3 made by wiege who is as fast as me at the moment , both running completely different sets. I can't drive his but maybe you can.
                     
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                    Aw: Alpine A364 F3 - Setup 5 Years, 12 Months ago  
                    Hi ChrisGT40,

                    Note, that the Norisring is a bit bumpy ... and the Alpine F3 weights literally nothing.
                    These two add up to, "wow, thats not easy at all".

                    As Caspar said, you should start driving carefully and rather slow ... finding a good line, learning where to go full throttle.
                    Afer a while, you will know the track quite well (including the Names of all bumps), and then you will get faster.

                    If you go "push, push, push" you will end up with a rather loose rear end on these cars ... and ofc you will miss some of the break- and turning-in points if you push it to the limits right from the beginning.

                    Concerning the setup ... i drive standard too ... except for steerlock adjustmenst and a modfied differential (40/40 .. but thats not working well on the Norisring ... for my needs).

                    The rest is standard.
                    The only thing making cars driveable in GTL is practice.
                    And thats a better recipe, than adjusting setups.

                    Regards
                    Olaf
                     
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                    Re:Alpine A364 F3 - Setup 5 Years, 12 Months ago  
                    Thank you for your replies.

                    I'll try your suggestions. I usually drive the Alfa GTA in Expert mode and easily dominate the Ai in GT Legends. Oh...and learnt to drive in an old EH Holden when I first received my car licence - Not an easy car to drive but much heavier than a little Alpine F3!!

                    Regards Chris.

                    PS: no brakes eh...I'll try that approach. Cheers.
                     
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                    Aw: Re:Alpine A364 F3 - Setup 5 Years, 12 Months ago  
                    If you maybe want to try another track that is good for practice, may I suggest Mantorp Park 1969?
                    Not only because Uwe and I build it but also because it is a quite easy to learn layout, almost no blind corners, very few bumps. Still there is a variety of different corners and straights and it looks very pretty xD
                    And it was a track of the European F3 championship back in the 70s
                     
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                    Aw: Alpine A364 F3 - Setup 5 Years, 12 Months ago  
                    try out the ABB-Servers in the online mode ... most likely, you'll meet drivers, able to answer some questions regaring finetuning .. or even finding a good line.

                    Some are able to provide you with setups for different cars on a particular track, or you can even roam our setup-Database via the Autoupdater.

                    Owning the AI in Expert Difficulty ist the one thing ... drivbing with "ABB's finest" is totally different.
                    Don't fell like "i don't really belong here" just because u are slower than some of them.
                    keep in mind, that some of them have had Millenia of practice (just look at Manfred Haupenthals counter on driven laps and kilometers)

                    Drive, race, have fun .... and get faster by just doing so
                     
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                    Aw: Alpine A364 F3 - Setup 5 Years, 12 Months ago  
                    DerOlf schrieb:
                    try out the ABB-Servers in the online mode ... most likely, you'll meet drivers, able to answer some questions regaring finetuning .. or even finding a good line.

                    Some are able to provide you with setups for different cars on a particular track, or you can even roam our setup-Database via the Autoupdater.

                    Owning the AI in Expert Difficulty ist the one thing ... drivbing with "ABB's finest" is totally different.
                    Don't fell like "i don't really belong here" just because u are slower than some of them.
                    keep in mind, that some of them have had Millenia of practice (just look at Manfred Haupenthals counter on driven laps and kilometers)

                    Drive, race, have fun .... and get faster by just doing so
                    what he said. There's info everywhere but no replacement for driving laps, many many laps.
                    The grid at ABB consists of many different drivers but all have the same goal, having fun and try to beat the guy in front of you. In every race you meet people, sometimes the ones you meet often because they have the same speed but many times you meet all drivers because you make a mistake early in race or you battle in midfield or at the rear. Sometimes you have to ride it out on your own and this can happen everywhere, at the front, in 15th place or totally in the back. And everywhere you meet people who lap you, come back from mistakes or just want your spot. This goes for all drivers and it great to see some are very good in some special classes or specific cars in one class and so you meet new competitors every race. Of course it's great to get to know each other's driving and race with some of the same guys in many races but all is still unpredictable because fast guys sometimes get in with little practice or slower guys have a great day and kick your ass. ABB is just great for it's racing at all speeds, cars and tracks. When we meet online, just open your mouth and ask for advice, it will be given in any area. When you're online you can even ask if someone can have a look at your lines etc. or ask for a private session on an online track. I'll gladly help you out, just never be ashamed if you can't get the top times or tend to get off track regularly, we all do that.
                     
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                    Aw: Re:Alpine A364 F3 - Setup 5 Years, 12 Months ago  
                    ChrisGT40 schrieb:


                    PS: no brakes eh...I'll try that approach. Cheers.


                    Have you tried it yet? If we're coming up to a race soon or you train at a certain track to hone your skills you can ask for a replay of a no brakes lap in a car you want.

                    Also, on Teamspeak there are many who speak english so that's no problem. We even have a special spanish TS channel where Oso Rulo, AGM Shaggy and other spanish speaking guys do their thing and I sometimes join that channel for fun, they speak english in between the massive spanish comments and those guys are fun too. Very helpful and fanatic and they make great reviews immediately after a race on live Youtube called Ballesta Racing. Check it out!
                     
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