Hi All,

Very sad to find someone cheating on GTL especially on a fun event: Dwarf Pushing 2 at Loch Rannock Short.

I was on server 5 and after serving 3 'stop & go' penalties I did not know I had a 4th and so I was DQ'd

While watching the racing and looking at every car I noticed that Stefan's mini sounded different to all of the rest so I checked the list of drivers and their cars and ...according to this he was using a 1310cc Mini Cooper S which has a more powerful engine. I mentioned this on TS and he denied using the wrong car.

On further investigation I find that his car (No.70D) is available as both the original spec and the 1310cc spec. Also the 1310cc car has a number plate ZX 532 on the back but the other one does not have a reg plate at all and the 1310cc has the overiders on the bumper which the other original spec does not have. Stefan's car certainly looks and sounded like the 1310cc Mini!

If you cheat your going to get noticed by someone ..sometimes people do not like to speak up about it. But this is blatent cheating by Stefan and now I know why you were able to catch me up so quickly.

Gee-Deeman

calm down, Gee!
As I said in TS few minutes ago the mentioned car is intecepting with one from the "tuned" 1330's ones. You've installed that car slot with one tuned engine, too.
Stefan is one of those, who has the gazoline in blood, watch him at several races on all three buden and think again

I would give that man the shirt of my back, that he's no cheater

Sad to hear there was possible cheating on your Server. I was on #3 I think, everything looked clean.

Is it me or does LochRannoch not always flash up a Stop/Go penalty all the time. I got three track cutting warnings during my race, but no penalty message. So I pitted in to be on the safe side and some repairs (clocked the 2nd left inside dam wall pretty darn hard). But no Stop/Go? Oh then I go press the ESC key by accident and properly shoot myself in both feet.

Hi Jowi,

I am calm and I was on the TS when I pointed it out. I thought I would just follow it up as I do not like the thought of cheating.

With all the talking going on on TS I did not hear what you had to say so unfortunately I was not able to take this into consideration.

The problem is that when you are fast yourself and someone is going even faster than you are no matter what you do you begin to wonder. I wondered and checked it out and found a lot of anomalies and if I am wrong then I am very sorry for what I have said but I have all the add on cars and this has never happened quite like this before.

Gee-Deeman

Hi Gordon,

please let me explain a short situation at the beginning. Opospi seemed to have the same idea like you and he obviously guessed that he was right to take a 1310 Mini from the new mods because he saw a car like this in the group. He wasn´t able to join the server with this car and was kicked with the normal warning "Fahrzeug nicht auf dem Server" (Car not on the server). Hope I had mentioned this correct during qualifying.

Isn´t it possible, according to the in very cases strange behaviours of some new mod cars, that if you have installed them, some may collide with a "regular" Mini? If those mods are able to make GTL completely useless, like cases I had to experience, what about such phenomena? I didn´t mention anything about a 1310. I had only the normal Minis in the list of cars in this event and no irregular sounds because I didn´t install the mods again after the new setup of my system. I couldn´t believe that Stefan (one of the very correct and experienced drivers in the field) has the need to do that. IMHO If he did so those who didn´t have the new Minis installed are forced in a loop if someone with the car enters the server.

You know my opinion about the new cars and the stability especially of those after Corolla, E21, 250SWB, TR4 and R8.

Hope this might be a reason for this issue. Believe me, it is not very hard to be faster than me but I often think if some drivers had a secret NOS injection in some situations on board although they are riding the same car...

Cheers

Jochen

To Stefan.

Hi Stefan, and all,

It looks like this silly old bugga has opened his mouth and put his foot in it again. At the time it appeared that everything fitted to the way I was thinking.

Since then I have realised by reading explanations from others that I made a really terrible mistake in blaming you Stefan for cheating

Can you ever forgive me? I hope so

I am going to take all my Add On Cars off my normal GTL game and put them on a seperate GTL game so that this type of hurtful incident hopefully won't happen again.

Best regards,

Gordon aka Gee-Deeman

i have read that thread and decided not to answer.
and i did well. i would give my left arm to a few guys "not cheating"
stefan and geedee are in the "top ten"

micha