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                      Re:Aw: VW GOLF grb file (0 viewing) 
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                      VW GOLF grb file 12 Years, 7 Months ago  
                      Hello,

                      I saw something strange in the "VW_GOLF_5speed.grb" file, which is perhaps, not exactly what is seems to be.

                      [GEAR_RATIOS]
                      ratio=(12,38) // 3.17
                      ratio=(11,38) // 3.45
                      ratio=(17,36) //2.12
                      ratio=(27,39) //1.44
                      ratio=(31,35) //1.13
                      ratio=(34,31) //0.91


                      And in the "VW_GOLF_GR2_5.hdc" file :
                      ReverseSetting=0
                      ForwardGears=5
                      Gear1Setting=0
                      Gear2Setting=2
                      Gear3Setting=3
                      Gear4Setting=4
                      Gear5Setting=5


                      So the 1st gear ratio expected could be 12/38 as it's the first line (line 0).
                      But in fact the gear ratios in the grb file are reordered by GTLegend, so the 1st line is not 12/38 but 11/38 which is shorter.

                      If you try this car, it's what is seen in the garage, the 1st gear by default is 11/38

                      In this case it's probably not so important, as reverse and 1st gear are the same ratio in the hdc file, but this error is made on some other mods with the real 1st gear and the real reverse gear inverted.

                      I'm not too specialized in Golf, but I'm pretty sure that the correct ratios for a Golf II GTI 8V 2Y gearbox are:
                      1: 3.45
                      2: 2.12
                      3: 1.44
                      4: 1.13
                      5: 0.91
                      R: 3.17

                      So the grb file could be modified in this way :
                      [GEAR_RATIOS]
                      ratio=(11,38) // 3.45 1
                      ratio=(12,38) // 3.17 R
                      ratio=(17,36) // 2.12 2
                      ratio=(27,39) // 1.44 3
                      ratio=(31,35) // 1.13 4
                      ratio=(34,31) // 0.91 5

                      and the hdc file :
                      ReverseSetting=1
                      ForwardGears=5
                      Gear1Setting=0
                      Gear2Setting=2
                      Gear3Setting=3
                      Gear4Setting=4
                      Gear5Setting=5

                      So with this modification the reverse ratio will be the real 12/38, not the shorter 11/38.
                      But I'm agree who care of the maximal speed in reverse gear

                      Now I have to try this new car, see you on the tracks
                      Olivier
                       
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                      Aw: VW GOLF grb file 12 Years, 7 Months ago  
                      Thanks did that just compared with the hdc files the Scirocco types Gr.2, TransAm and GT3 and even there it's the same.

                      One can thus use the same settings for the aforementioned Scirocco variants.

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                      Danke, habe das gerade mal mit den hdc-Dateien der Scirocco Typen Gr.2, TransAm und GT3 verglichen und auch dort ist es genauso.

                      Man kann also die gleichen Einstellungen auch für die oben genannten Scirocco-Varianten verwenden.
                       
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                      Re:Aw: VW GOLF grb file 12 Years, 7 Months ago  
                      Hi guys

                      Your observation of a mistake is correct in both the Rocco and the Golf.
                      In fact the mistake is that the 12/38 option should not be in the GRB file at all I had meant to remove it but it was over looked in the Scirocco release and then carried over to the Golf, the mistake is mine.

                      The GRB file should look like this;

                      [GEAR_RATIOS]
                      ratio=(11,38) // 3.45
                      ratio=(17,36) //2.12
                      ratio=(27,39) //1.44
                      ratio=(31,35) //1.13
                      ratio=(34,31) //0.91

                      The HDC for the Group2 and Trans Am like this. (Same as the GT-3 car which is already correct)

                      ReverseSetting=0
                      ForwardGears=5
                      Gear1Setting=0
                      Gear2Setting=1
                      Gear3Setting=2
                      Gear4Setting=3
                      Gear5Setting=4

                      A small update in the future can correct however the Gear ratios are correct in the defalt setting. It is true that you can now select the 12/38 option for a slightly taller 1st gear but any advantage in lap time would be slight.

                      Besides it has been said that trying to make things perfect is an offense to God as only he is perfect.
                      I do not believe in God, but you can never be too careful on such matters.
                       
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