Hi Gordon,

I have the autoupdater, and it says everything is up to date. I certainly have a ton of addon cars courtesty of Altbierbude.

Hi Layzee,

Try this:

1... Start the Autoupdater.

2... Close the box that says Info/No new files.

3... Go to Commands on the top bar a choose Reinstallation.

This will check your Bude downloads for missing files.

If this does not work then try re-installing GTL this way:

1... Un-install GTL using the feature on the GTL game disc. This won't delete the Bude stuff or your personal settings.

2... Re-install GTL. This will not overwrite the Bude stuff or you personal data.

3... Don't forget to also install the 1.1 update.

If none of that works then please consult a Voodoo oligist, he he!

Cheers,

Gee-Deeman

Thanks for the tips G-D.

I think I'm going to have to do a reinstall of GTL.

When I use the reinstall tool on the Bude updater it checks everything and finds the same 10 or so downloads that haven't been installed every time, so that must be something to do with the problem.

Hi Layzee,

Before you do a re-install of GTL you should do an uninstall first.

Uninstall using the facility on the GTL CD if you have one, then do a reinstall. No personal information or Bude downloads should be affected using it this way.

Don't forget to also install the v1.1 patch.

You can have more than one GTL installation on a drive if you want and it's very easy to do.

Simply rename your present GTL folder to say GTL1 or GTL Bude or something then install another GTL... it's that easy! I have 6 GTL installs on one drive all with something different on.

Cheers and good luck.

Gee-Deeman

I first tried doing an uninstall with the menu on the disc as you suggested, that gave me the same problem. As you say, it leaves the GAMEDATA folder intact, and I think I have a problem with the installation of some cars.

Anyway, I uninstalled, deleted the Gamedata, and reinstalled, updated with the Bude client which reinstalls all the cars and tracks, and I hope that has fixed the problem. I can't test in game as I'm at work but I will report back later.

Ok, none of that worked. Whatever car I select in multiplayer I get the same Gulf-liveried GT40 'clean'.

Ok I've done some more investigation.

I deleted that GT40 from the \gamedata folder, and tried again. The car that is selected by default on the choose car screen is the one I end up with on a multiplayer game. When I deleted the GT40 it was a Shelby Daytona. So yes, for some reason I don't have all the cars installed.

Even after my fresh install, with a deleted Gamedata, running the re-install on the Bude client gets me this every time:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8741/ budeprob1.png[/img]

These cars in the list are already installed for sure in my GTL. So if I go ahead and click yes, it overwrites them all. If I then quit the Bude installer, run it again, and do reinstallation again the same list appears!

Any help appreciated.

Hi Layzee,

When you said the GT40 and the Shelby Daytona it reminded me of a problem that I had. I traced it to one car that I did not have and that was a Shelby Daytona Peter Brock number 05 {05PB}

This is the download link for it so check your game out and see if you do or do not have this one: http://www.altbierbude.de/component/ option,com_remository/func,fileinfo/id,378

That's it now m8, after this I know nothing, he he!!

GL & HF

Gee-Deeman

Thanks for trying GeeDee. I have spent hours and hours trying to get this to work and am about to give up on ever racing GTL online!

I decided I had to start completely from fresh to rule out any problems.

1) Installed GTL again to a new folder
2) Applied 1.1 patch
3) Pointed Bude client to new folder
4) re-downloaded all bude files to a new folder!! 9Gb! (Wanted to rule out any corrupt file)
5) 24 hours later
6) Started new GTL
7) Entered CD Key
8) Joined multiplayer
9) Select Bude server
10) Choose a car
11) STILL!! Whatever car I choose I always get a Gulf GT40 when I appear in the pits.

I am having a hard time beliving I can be alone in this since I have tried absolutely everything. I also tried making registering a new online account, no luck. If anyone can think of anything I haven't tried let me know

If you look at this guy's post:
http://www.altbierbude.de/component/ option,com_fireboard/Itemid,99/func,view/id,29803/ catid,3/lang,en/

He is complaining about someone joining in a GT40 when he hasn't allowed that??!

Duh I guess I should have looked better in the German forum, there is a 4 page thread about this problem, obviously not just me - hurrah!
http://www.altbierbude.de/component/ option,com_fireboard/Itemid,99/func,view/id,29997/ catid,3/limit,6/limitstart,12/lang,en/

Hi Layzee,

I know some guys have problems that very few others have and I guess it's to do with the peculiarities of their computer. My youngest son had problems getting GTL to work, most times it would tell him his computer wasn't configuered to run this type of game.

I managed to get a hold of GTL without a CD and now he doesn't have these problems. Big Ron put a link for this on the Forum but it doesn't work anymore unfortunately.

Did you find any help in the German Forum topics you unearthed??

Gee-Deeman

Well I think it must be something to do with the new lobby. Someone suggested that on the German forum and was shouted down.

The game runs absolutely perfect offline, with all the add on cars and tracks, no problem at all. Since others are having this issue I can only think its something to do with the lobby.

layzee wrote:
Well I think it must be something to do with the new lobby. Someone suggested that on the German forum and was shouted down.

The game runs absolutely perfect offline, with all the add on cars and tracks, no problem at all. Since others are having this issue I can only think its something to do with the lobby.

If that were true then the great majority of us would not get onto the Lobby.

The fault must lie with something that you or your computer are doing.

One piece of information or one full stop, coma, letter, number or whatever in the wrong place can cause GTL to behave strange.

The only time I have ever had any problems with GTL like yours has been down to me doing something wrong.

Check all of your car folders and see if something has saved into them by accident. It's very easy to drag a drop a file into the wrong folder without noticing it.

When adding any files to GTL always read the read me's and don't assume that you know the best place to put a file or folder... this is a very common mistake and can cause you problems that take time to find.

You could try running a trace to find if it can pinpoint the problem.

1... Make sure the GTL install you will use is just called GTL

2... Right click on your desktop GTL icon and select Properties

3... Now choose Shortcut and where it says Target: C:\GTL\GTL.exe add -trace=30 so it looks like this >>> C:\GTL\GTL.exe -trace=30

4... Now start your game using that desktop GTL icon and as soon as you get the problem close the game.

5... Now open GTL/UserData/LOG and you will see a file called trace.txt

6... Open this with WordPad or Notepad and see if you can make out anything that is causing your problem.

If you can't understand it then put a copy onto the forum and hopefully someone can work it out for you.

Cheers,

Gee-Deeman

layzee wrote:
Thanks for trying GeeDee. I have spent hours and hours trying to get this to work and am about to give up on ever racing GTL online!

I decided I had to start completely from fresh to rule out any problems.

1) Installed GTL again to a new folder
2) Applied 1.1 patch
3) Pointed Bude client to new folder
4) re-downloaded all bude files to a new folder!! 9Gb! (Wanted to rule out any corrupt file)
5) 24 hours later
6) Started new GTL
7) Entered CD Key
8) Joined multiplayer
9) Select Bude server
10) Choose a car
11) STILL!! Whatever car I choose I always get a Gulf GT40 when I appear in the pits.

I am having a hard time beliving I can be alone in this since I have tried absolutely everything. I also tried making registering a new online account, no luck. If anyone can think of anything I haven't tried let me know

Not sure it will help but, did you apply the "Unlock all cars and tracks" cheat? (see http://www.gamers-crib.com/forum/showpost.php? p=26915&postcount=22)

Hi Layzee,

I really cannot understand what is happening with GTL for you... it's got me beat!!

Yes I did use the 'Cheat' patch to unlock all cars & tracks.

I hope someone else reads this and can help!!

Gee-Deeman

Don't know if you've read the German forum GeeDee, but I tried your logging tip. There an immediate reg flag:

PlayerGarage 412: USERDATA\layzee\garage.gar is an illegal garage file

Others with the problem have had the same thing.

So today I did some more troubleshooting. I installed a clean copy of GTL without any Bude cars or tracks. I patched to 1.1 and went on to multiplayer. With a new profile, I was able to join a server, and chose the Lotus Cortina instead of the standard Mini. Unfortunately, when the track has loaded, I am in the Mini

The other thing I tried was actually deleting the garage.gar file in my other GTL install (with cars and tracks). The game just remade the file, and the multiplayer failed to load the correct car as usual.

Writing all this is German is beyond me so hopefully they'll look at this.

I also had the "general error" issue, even after following all the procedures listed in this thread.

I checked and re-checked all the settings, was able to make new registers in the lobby with success, but no conection after, allways the general error message.

My settings were:

LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.txt: gtl-lobby.bierbuden.de

in the windows hosts file: 87.106.79.180 www.gtl-server.net

These values were the same that were shown in the Altbierbude updater, in the Configuration/Options/Lobby section.

here's how I fixed the issue:

I noticed that in my plr file, under multiplayer options, I had the following line:

Host IP Address="81.3.59.61"

(this was the backup lobby IP)

I changed this line to:

Host IP Address="87.106. 79.180"

(the same IP as in the hosts file)

Tryed to conect again, and still general error.

I registered in lobby again with a new name/password, and I could log in to multiplayer immediatly!

So, my advice is:

1 - Correct the line in plr/multiplayer options
2 - register in lobby again with new name/password
3 - try to log-in, but don't forget to use the name /password you used in step 2!

hey I have exactly the same problem, let me try that!!

thx!

yup, that worked...my .PLR file had an old hosts line in it

tx much!!

Can someone with GTL and Vista please help ?

Is the GTL online key stored in the normal place in the registry under Windows Vista? (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\10tacle Studios\GTL\Keys)

I am trying to help a guy who has Vista, and he has got as far as updating the Starforce drivers, and runs the game fine offline.
And he has a genuine GTL CD (in case you ask )

I talked him through setting up the 3 files to get connection to the lobby

* LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.TXT
* LOCAL_IP_BACKUP_LOBBY.TXT
* hosts

When he tries to register with the lobby, he gets a "General Failure"

The most likely cause I guess is that his online serial number is the wrong length.

So we tried to find the key in the registry and delete it

...but it is not there !

...and his game does not ask him for it when he clicks Multiplayer/Internet

Does anyone know if the key is kept somewhere different in Vista?

or why his GTL does not ask him for it?

Forget it

We found it

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\10tacle Studios\GTL\Keys

yup, that worked...my .PLR file had an old hosts line in it

tx much!!

this puzzles me because I also have an old hosts line in my .PLR but I have no problems connecting.

I think that host line is only used for Multiplayer/LAN Direct IP games

Hi,

Is the lobby now checking something new?
That the online key is not used by another registered user?

Reason: A new user had some problems registering, he tried several times and managed ok in the end.

Next day it did not work (General error)

so I advised

- deleting his online key from the registry, and re-entering it (to make sure it was 28 chars)
- then registering a totally new lobby name...

but we kept getting the "General" error

I suggested changing one character in his online key

And it worked !

Is the lobby now checking something new?
No.

And there are some other issues with the lobby too, I did not understand.

Cheers
Andreas

PS: It would be helpful for me, to know the lobby names. Then I can try to understand what happens and try to make some changes. I'm still working on it...

Dazza writes

I think one was Dazzaboyx and one was a load of numbers 55566677x something like that oh and maybe just dazza aswell

His current (successfull) name is Dazza123

Hope it helps

layzee wrote:
Don't know if you've read the German forum GeeDee, but I tried your logging tip. There an immediate reg flag:

PlayerGarage 412: USERDATA\layzee\garage.gar is an illegal garage file

Others with the problem have had the same thing.

So today I did some more troubleshooting. I installed a clean copy of GTL without any Bude cars or tracks. I patched to 1.1 and went on to multiplayer. With a new profile, I was able to join a server, and chose the Lotus Cortina instead of the standard Mini. Unfortunately, when the track has loaded, I am in the Mini

The other thing I tried was actually deleting the garage.gar file in my other GTL install (with cars and tracks). The game just remade the file, and the multiplayer failed to load the correct car as usual.

Writing all this is German is beyond me so hopefully they'll look at this.

Hi guys,

After trawling the threads for a hour I give up

I am trying to help a player with similar problems (no matter what car he chooses, he always ends up in the same car)

Did you fix it?

What is the fix please?

thanks in advance